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    T-90A in Syria. Not sure if it's "Russian contractor" or locally crewed.
     
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    yeah, complete clusterfuck lol
     
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    Israeli Elbit Systems are negotiating with Polish PGZ Group. There is possibility of license production of Hermes 450 and Hermes 900 UAVs for Polish forces. On other hand UK is offering Thales Watchkeeper, and US is offering MQ-9 Reaper.

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    interesting about the reaper, that's the armed predator, right ? Apart from the US, I guess only the UK operate it. Not surprising though, frontline NATO states will get everything easy.

    There was news late last year that IAI made a deal to sell some Eitan (armed Heron) to us, no idea about the delivery schedule, IAF already operate a few Heron for recce etc.
     
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    Also France. And it's 4 heavier than predator and can carry ordnance of weight of old Predator :turd:

    But after we got new AGM-158 JASSM cruise missiles for our F-16s I'm not surprised US is offering us a top notch equipment.

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    Those things have 370 km of range, and are reduced radar cross-section. Bought to counter S-400 and give our F-16s reasonable survival chances if they needed to attack targets in Kaliningrad.
     
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    nice.

    about the MQ-9s, will you get the full fat version with gorgon stare tech transfer to polish firms or it's just a regular internal NATO sale ? also, you guys in line for F-35s too ?

    We got into the MTCR recently, and can finally increase Brahmos' range from the current 300km to almost double to 600, which is around what the Yakhont is capable of. Some talk of selling them to Vietnam too, and finally, recently flight tested air launched version, not fired, just a mki flight with it attached on the centre pylon.

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    We plan to get 64 new planes between 2022-2025 and F-35 is one of options, along with Eurofigher, Gripen E(ugh...), F/A-18 Advanced Super Hornet (upcoming version with similar modifications as F-15SE Silent Eagle) and Rafale. But F-35 is considered first choice. BrahMos is nice weapon, hypersonic... And MQ-9 I really don't know what version.

    Also on that ORP Kormoran minesweeper there will be mouted new domestic Tryton 35 mm cannon:
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    There are plans to equip with it all surface vessels of Polish Navy to replace Wróbel, witch is navalized ZU-23. We produce 35 mm programmable ammo here so it's gonna be good CIWS. Now it's tested on ORP Kaszub corvette.
     
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    silent eagle failed, nobody was interested, the Saudis went for a SA (saudi advanced) version but there was news of the Israelis showing interest for them over F-35s. Got any artist impression pics of what a stealthy hornet might look like ?

    the gorgon stare is just a series of sensors and cameras for recon but the US holds that kind of tech very close and is unlikely to sell, much less transfer that technology, the rules are probably very different when it's for a NATO partner, though.

    found a vid of your Tryton ciws:

    [video=youtube;BrexIbrY6gs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrexIbrY6gs[/video]
     
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    Might be... But still it's not bad platform. But Israeli offer is more likely to be chosen. They offered full technology transfer and license production. Also we have license for Spike-LR AGTM and there was no problem with technology transfer and support.

    Yeah, promotional clip from sensor manufacturer.
     
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    No good guys there. All sides commited unrepeatable crimes.
     
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    Russia is pissed after we announced that we plan to get Tomahawks for our new subs (there gonna be chosen from Scorpene, U-212 and S-80).
     
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    nice, diesel electrics with AIP is what will do all the work in a real conflict, the Japanese Soryu class are also supposed to be killer boats. They're licence producing some scorpenes here.


    why are Russia pissed, minus the torpedos, do they have a VLS option or will the tomahawks be modified to launch from the torpedo tubes ?
     
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    Russia is always pissed when country that was in their sphere of influence is getting tired of their shit. It's deterrent weapon against (again) Kaliningrad. They are pissed because we are getting more and more means to kick ass. And Russia as you see tries to get back all their historical influence. Really strong military that is bordering with Kaliningrad and Belarus is their salt in eye. Soryu are little to big for Baltic sea, almost twice as heavy as Scorpene/U-212. Baltic is really difficult for submarine warfare. Even Russian navy is not stationing Akulas here, only Kilos.
     
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    what about the Tomahawks, torpedo launched ones ?

    I think Russian expansionism is a myth, Crimea was a special case and Donbass does not mean they're going to eat the rest of the Baltics next. Always good to have solid defences and a deterrent though.

    also, there any Euro-Skepticism there ? Trump might shake things up quite a bit wrt Russia/NATO if he gets in office.
     
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    Torpedo tubes. Subs will be too small for VLS. Baltic is very small you see and subs must be compact.

    Euro-Skepticis? Lately is getting higher but when (not if...) current not-so-pro EU will fail (socialistic dickheads dressed as conservatives) it's gonna turn again. Russian imerialism is not some propaganda. You'll see soon enouch.
     

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