Child porn suspect jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard drives

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  1. Rocklin

    Rocklin T&G Senior Registered Member

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    You literally said 16 is a child. In that case every movie suitable for 16 year olds (according to that rating system) must be a children's movie. I saw Passion of the Christ and its rating was like 15+. In that case it counts as a "children's movie".
     
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    You said 16 year olds are children, but I do know 16 year olds can legally work in the US, but at the same time child labor is illegal. Do you see my point? In that case 16 year olds can't work.
     
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    I know what I literally said but you're twisting it. Incrementally is the key word. Maybe by your thinking I'll go ahead and feed a toddler a porterhouse and give him the biggest, sharpest knife I have.
     
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    No, I totally get your point but you're twisting mine.
     
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    I said if a 2 year old and a 16 year old are both "children", then Saw is a children's movie, just like PoTC, Terminator 2, and whatever. I also said if you're in your mid teens you're more like an adolescent, not a a child, but still not a legal adult. Saw was a random example.
     
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    No, I get it but you are trying to juxtapose competence based on differing ages whereas porn is on a whole different level. Teaching a 16 year old to drive is just good for them to have some responsibility and to be able to function out in the real world and that won't work for a two year old. I guess by your way of looking at things is it ok to keep a 16 year old in diapers and change them? No, by that time not only are they old enough to do it but that's just downright gross on so many levels. Anyway, I'm outski.
     
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    You're twisting my point. You said a 16 year old was a child, not me. A 16 year old is an adolescent. I left the porn subject long ago. Also I'm not sure why you're obsessed with diapers.

    People in their mid teens are ADOLESCENTS, not "children". A 15+ movie is not way a children's movie but you're avoiding my point for whatever reason. An adolescent is underage, but not exactly a "child". I already asked you if you thought those movies I mentioned were "children's movies" but you dodged the question. To me they're not. A children's movie would be Frozen or something.
     
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    I'm not twisting the point but you fail to see mine and say I'm obsessed with diapers when I only used it in one post not like your number of posts on porn. If you wanna get technical then so be it, adolescent is the word i'd use too. Am I PC enough for you? It's still wrong to me and that's my conviction. I don't have time for this crap, i've got enough to worry about.
     
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    I'm not talking about porn, I've been talking about violent movies for the last part, remember? If the definition of a "child" stretches up to 17 then movies like Saw, POTC and other movies like that should be considered as "children's movies", but they aren't. Exactly, they are for adolescents even if they are minors. The WHO defines adolescence as young people from 10-19, although I'd say adolescence kicks in way later than 10. And no, why would they keep a 16 year old in diapers for? I know you're not "obsessed" with diapers but you threw that out of the blue.
     
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    I threw it out to prove a point and I also did that with my Porterhouse reference too. That's all I've been doing and also using my incrementally statements. I see what you're saying but I see things done in increments based on age, responsibility, etc. Maybe 16 isn't a good age to refer to someone as a child but in the case of porn, sex, etc. I do but not in think in terms of normal day to day things or just life in general should they be regarded as such ie. driving, drinking etc. I like how the legal age for different things is all in different ages because tey could become overwhelmed. My point in the diaper thing is that putting a 16 year old in diapers and changing them is just as sick and disturbing as a 16 year old doing porn. As far as the movies, etc. go that's why they have ratings but even those aren't a safeguard that they won't watch something anyway. A lot of times parents/guardians use their own discretion anyway and let them watch or do things before they are of age to do so. But as far as seeing your point I do.
     
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    Ever saw American Beauty? [MENTION=1]iris[/MENTION]
     
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    I already said all i had to say.

    The main topic was child pornography, something i'm totally against and thankfully so is the law. Then the conversation took a totally different path.
    And i kinda lost it. i don't know what you're trying to point, [MENTION=9]Rocklin[/MENTION] Gus!? ... I said and believe that 16 yo girls shouldn't be in porn movies (cause this is what the topic is all about) and you probably, obviously believe they should. Which is okay by me, your believe ...as long as the law says something else.

    Now if a girl of 16 should be called a kid or a teenager or a woman or adult or whatever, i don't care. The main thing is that 18+ it's a good age limit for porn making.
     
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    What. I said it was exaggerated calling a 16-17 year olds "children", but I never said they should do porn. If you think I did you misread me. They are adolescents but still minors. Calling them children is just exaggerated. That was the point I was trying to make all along. Nowhere in this thread did I encourage any minors to do porn, or legitimized its distribution. Also it's been theorized that the brain isn't fully developed until 25, so why isn't 25 the legal age instead? 18 year olds may not be mature enough just because they are legal. If I was defending underage porn I would argue to lower the legal age, and not raise it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...True-adulthood-doesnt-begin-until-age-25.html

    And I implied the definition of CP can differ. Thora Birch was underage (16) when she did that scene in AB, so some people argue it's CP (a topless scene), but apparently it's not since it's a mainstream movie, because of some legal thing. Some guy here was charged for child pornography, but it was weird because they were manga drawings, it had nothing to do with actual living children.

    If you seriously think I implied anyone below 18 to do porn your interpretation is way off.
     
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    OnT: why can't they just hack into the hard drive?
     
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    Well i don't understand the whole hurr durr, I read all the argument between you and [MENTION=217]Sheolite[/MENTION] and what you reply to my comments and if we're on the same page, what's the deal?
    You don't think porn with 16 yo should be called "Child Pornography" ? should it be "teenage Pornography" or what?
    I'm honestly confused.
    And to recap., all i personally said and believe is that kids/ teenagers should do kids/ teenagers stuff and we should let them out of the porn industry. :shrug:
     
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    I don't know but they're still underage and I don't want them in porn. I'm talking about the terminology only. To me "child porn" is pornographic content with small children. If a 17 year old is a child, then an 18 year old must be very close to a child too, so maybe 18 is too young? Did you read that article? If the brain is really fully developed at 25 maybe 18 is way too young.

    I simply disagree with calling 16-17 year olds "children". Yeah, they are underage and they should not be in porn, but calling a toddler learning to walk and a 17 year old "children" is odd to me. I literally only disagreed with the legal terminology but I neither gave support to or encouraged underage individuals to do porn. If you read my posts again you'll see I never explicitly said 16 year olds should do porn. That interpretation is only in your head. I gave you one piece of wood and you built a house from it.
     
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    I blocked Sheolite shortly after he started talking about 16 year olds in diapers. I don't give a flying fuck about his creepy fetishes. I never said 16 year olds should do porn, so maybe this forum is for people with brain cancer? Show me the post where I said 16 year olds should do porn. Oh yeah that's right you can't. Because I never said that.
     
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    I think you took some conclusions too far :lol:
     

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